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Comment by Jax on July 1, 2019 at 1:01pm

I never understood what the appeal is to getting clicks or views, I guess if you’re on YouTube and not demonetized I can understand a financial motive but even then it’s too niche for me to imagine it being worth the trouble and infringement of someone else’s material. Maybe I’m old fashioned or maybe I’m just old but reposting doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.  Capturing videos on the other hand makes a lot of sense, with the speed that streaming sites shut down accounts there can be a post on the kitg homepage in the morning and by the time I get home from work the video is down and the posters account suspended.  Entire websites full of content shut down and it’s just gone, I’m still kicking myself for not backing up the archive of bb stories on the old Kramtoad site before it went down erasing everything. So when I buy ballbusting clips or if someone shares a free sample on YouTube or Vimeo or pornhub I admit that I definitely cap and catalogue it, but Ive never reposted something without permission.  I didn’t even use the avatar I have on this site until I reached out to Knave first to make sure it was ok.

 I certainly don’t want to blame the victim in this situation but it’s a shitty thing to do posting your content wherever they want, and holy crap “Some Brown Guy” really got screwed over hard... but this idea that there’s any place on the internet that’s a “safe haven” for posting, I don’t know where that idea came from but I think it might be a little naive.  You can certainly crack down on the likelihood of it happening here by requiring membership fees but that seems a bit like a Thanos option.  It’s not that you’re weeding out bad actors you’re just reducing the likelihood by reducing the overall population by half (or however much the site will shrink with fees).  I don’t know how many times I see full size clips of videos that I’ve shot popping up on Pornhub, frustratingly whoever the guy was that posted that first clip he actually did pay for it, all of the full clips reposted from clips4sale sites had an initial buyer willing to pay a clip or a membership fee.  So this is a long way of saying I’m sry it’s happened to you, and it sucks, and it’s happened to me as well and it pisses me off, but anything that’s posted online to share or to sell whatever happens to it next is, to some degree, out of your control regardless of the site its posted on.  

Comment by Peter Hopkins on July 1, 2019 at 9:37am

I agree with the sentiments of Emac Zed.

Please keep in mind that whatever you post on the internet is permanent.

Someone will always have what's posted archived somewhere.

99.99% of the community do not repost other people's video's, it's unfair to blame the entire community for it. It's impossible to control and there will always be those few people out there that will do it. Taking preventative measures can help, such as putting a password on vimeo, but there will always be a way around it.

Know this whenever you post.

Comment by Liquid Metal on July 1, 2019 at 8:12am

Wow Some Brown Guy.. I am so sorry that happened to you. What a nightmare! Who even does stuff like that to someone? I mean, even someone wanted to, who has the time to invest on such a thing?? Sounds awfully stalker-ish, you sure you don't have some psycho ex out there that is super bitter with you??  Man, that is really bad!

Comment by Ermac Zed on June 29, 2019 at 12:26am

I'm empathetic to your cause but if you don't want your videos to be shared by others publicly on the internet then your best course of action would be to not share them with the public at all. Let's keep in mind that whenever you post anything on here, up to 4500~ people are able to view and share it if they wished to. I love our niche ballbusting community but I wouldn't contribute here If wasn't comfortable with the potential that anyone on the internet might eventually see what I posted. Would you trust 4500 strangers to not share a video they have interest in, at least once? I would love for our entire community to respect the wishes of our contributors, but it's never going to happen.

Comment by Tim Bowens on June 28, 2019 at 5:40pm

So I might get blasted for this but please understand, I’m not saying it’s ok. And of course if I could end it all with a snap I would (paging Thanos). But I’m wondering just what exactly we do. I feel we are getting into the philosophy of human nature here.

Not to turn this to politics but there are similarities. Some people like to blame items. Things. Like drugs, or guns, for example. But if you actually look around and look at real facts you’d see banning stuff never solves the problem. Ever. You just make it harder and harder for normal, law abiding people to get their pain medicine, or defend themselves.

I remember when I played PC games. Developers got so bad with piracy protection you could barely play the game because of it. It totally ruined the experience. But guess what? The hackers (not technically the right term but I’ll go with popular nomenclature) had it cracked sometimes in hours and they played the game trouble free.

But to bring this back a bit. I think there is a fundamental thing that some people just refuse to believe. And that’s that some people just aren’t good. They don’t care if they steal or hurt others. Granted, I think it’s a small number of people. And I do think if some of the casual thieves had to do the hard work themselves and got their work stolen they might change their tune.

Some people will try and sell us on the false promise that if we just give up a little bit of something, freedom, ease of use of this website, etc, that the problem will go away. It we can plainly see through the efforts done already here it doesn’t work. We can see it doesn’t stop piracy in Hollywood. It doesn’t stop illegal drug use. It doesn’t stop gun crime. It just makes it harder for the rest of us! And the bad people get what they want with ease and they get to laugh at us too.

“But Tim, are you saying we should do nothing??!!” No. Absolutely not. But since we all have to live in this community we have to do a couple of things.

One, we all have to decide how much inconvenience we are going to put up with in order to try and make theft harder.

Two, we each have to put in the effort to make this community better. Even if it’s a tiny thing each of us do. Tiny things add up to big things.

Three. The hard one. We must accept the fact that no matter what we do, there are going to be bad actors. The annoying thing is while this is a community, our community, it doesn’t operate like real life. We can’t arrest thieves and put them on trial. They can be banned, but even an IP ban can be beat relatively easily.

We have to figure out the best way to stop it without costing us our freedoms and making it a pain to enjoy our community.

Comment by Ricardo Gonzalez on June 27, 2019 at 6:50pm

:(

Comment by dvhour (Site Owner) on June 27, 2019 at 7:19am

From now on moving forward ... as a group... in unison... 

If ever anyone finds content from our bb producers alert US and we will post the offending link on our front page and we will send an Army of members to FLAG this content... if many of us flag the content it might get it removed... so let this be our pact moving forward members. 

WEEEZ please show us this offending link and either Mal or Myself will post it up. 

Comment by dvhour (Site Owner) on June 27, 2019 at 7:13am

Weez it is my frustration and complete anger that this is happening on a site that I prize and pride on so heavily as NEVER posting from paid content from BB publishers as yourself. 

Just a question is it possible that someone from your Patreon site uploaded it? Just asking I know my site is a culprit for a huge amount of distrust, so I'm not doubting that it didn't happen, definitely just giving it pause and some benefit of the doubt reflection... regardless I'm soooo terribly sorry for you and others that this keeps happening to... 

So here's my thought I'm going to buy the pay upload section this year for the site when we do our donations and see what becomes of that, but we will make a group only for content providers and we will close it off to select members and try to filter it that way to see if that works. 

Comment by A.W on June 25, 2019 at 2:32am

Dude, I made an announcement id be posting full FREE videos here periodically. FREE. From my paysite. Just because everyone has been complaining that BB producers are all in it for the money now. So i'm like alright cool. I'll throw in some freebies. There's some OG's in bb forums that would love it and new people too. I posted a full free lotus video at Tlc BB net, the same one I posted here.....689 views.....1 comment that read "Thanks". The BB community has a CHUNK of ungrateful entitled bastards I gotta say. THIS site is literally the only place a lot of us feel our stuff wont get blasted everywhere else and APPRECIATED. So to see it happen here too has got me like wth man. Do I even continue to follow through with more freebies or what cause It feels heavily unappreciated

Comment by Sai on November 29, 2018 at 4:57pm

It’s true  WeeZ

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