Voluntary or Involuntary

[J.P.]

While I certainly enjoy my girlfriend busting my balls, I find I have much more interest in those times that a girl busts a guy out of anger, self defense, or just in a fight.  It gives me much more satisfaction thinking about the girl winning the confrontation or exploiting his weakness rather than a guy just allowing it to happen.  Guys, do you agree?  Girls, doesnt it seem at all anti-climatic when a guy just lets you do it?

[volcan51]

i'm totally agree with you, for me the planification of the girl, the way she waits for her chance,sometimes distract him and later attack without mercy his weak spot, for me it`s the sublime expresion of feminity. in fact i even turn on with the idea of her getting access to my groin, planting her foot or sliding her hand, then she get full control, the pain it's not important, in fact i hope that she will be merciful.

[Foo Bar]

Voluntary, in the sense that of course my girlfriend has permission to bust my balls at her whim.  But sometimes involuntary in terms of how long & hard a beating she gives me.  ;)

[Ballistic]

For me, the involuntary is kind of the whole point. It's the female's ability to win using her particularly feminine techniques against a particularly masculine vulnerability. 

The only real enjoyment that comes from voluntary, either watched or on myself, is that is it a bit of a simulation of the real thing. So, in a movie, I know it's not 'real' but it's sexy if it confers the sense of the real thing. 

All this being said, I certain;y don't condone bb except for real defense, but man is it a turn on either way.. 

[Daniel A.]

To me, voluntary only.

[0jvsq1a7v81zh]

involuntary is sexiest by far, but I can't reconcile it with my morals so I try to steer clear of girls that do that. 

[33jcg9ty3lvam]

Nah I don't like it when girls bust out of anger because I think it's immature but if it's in self defence then that's pretty cool. I would prefer to be busted without knowing it was going to happen but I'd have to have the kind of relationship with the woman where when it happens I know it's meant in good fun. I couldn't allow myself to be busted by some idiot who was dumb and insensitive. I do have some standards.

[Tender Boy]

Involuntary is sexy as hell because it's a full expression of the woman's power.  She's in control and not holding back.  We see what she's capable of, whether she can bust his balls well enough to bring him to his knees without his permission if she wants to.

He's not voluntarily surrendering control, she's taking it.  That's hot.

If this happens in self-defense, where the woman is rightfully protecting herself, then it's awesome, because she's able to use all her strength and it's morally acceptable.  The guy is the one who started the fight so he deserves what he gets.

If the woman kicks a man without a threat to her safety then we are in a murky area.  I think it's morally wrong and not something that people should do, but I have to admit that I think it's a complete turn-on.  I feel a little guilty saying that but it's true.  I don't condone it but if it happens anyway, then my liking it does no harm.  It's just a personal feeling I keep to myself.

For example I like to check out youtube videos where people are horsing around and a girl kicks a guy in the balls (usually by surprise, but among friends) and he goes down in a shocked tumble of pain and embarrassment, not injured but still having to deal with the sudden powerlessness and humiliation of being kicked in the testicles as various women look down at him on the floor, including the one who just kicked his balls, and the women laugh or look surprised, and even sweetly offer comfort because they know it must hurt.  I like it when the women exude a sense of their own power.  I think that's all sexy, even if it's "wrong".

(Of course sometimes I'm left a little speechless by some guys in the videos who get the lightest tap on the nuts and then fall to the ground like they got shot by a cannon, and I can't help but think, "Come on dude, have some pride!" LOL).

So I have mixed feelings towards women who kick men in the balls just because they feel like it.  I think it's rude, but I also think it's sexy.  I like it and don't like it at the same time.  Maybe that tension is what makes it interesting and a turn-on.

All right then, it's one thing to like something as a passive observer, even if that thing is "wrong".  But this begs the question of what's OK to take part in ourselves, where we cause things to happen, not just see someone else do it.

In practice it's very difficult to enage in involuntary busts (at least the hard ones) because someone's rights would be violated and that's not OK.  In self-defense it's the woman's safety being threatened, otherwise it's the man who is an unwilling victim of assault.  Both of these are not acceptable for pleasurable exploration.

I think the best one can do is have the man tell the woman it's OK to bust his balls, and give her permission to do it any time, but then she gets to choose how and where and when and how hard, likely making it a total surprise for the guy.  That way we're in clear moral territory because everyone is a willing participant, but the woman has total control over how it happens and the guy can't really do anything to stop it (not that he wants to).

I've never had a busting partner like that but I sure would love to!